Female Modesty: To Cover or Reveal?

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  1. Mrs.
    Mrs. September 4, 2010 at 3:30 am | | Reply

    Another thread wrapped up in the clothing issue with modesty is “gender differentiation.” Some of the “prairie muffin” types I know do not dress that way out of modesty issues alone. In a culture where God’s creation of TWO genders is being obliterated or blended, they seek to wear sometimes “overly feminine” clothing (by today’s standards) to delineate to sons and daughters growing up in an increasingly very confused world that we can celebrate “male and female created He them.”

  2. katietaylor
    katietaylor March 13, 2013 at 3:22 am | | Reply

    Do you not ever stop to think that we women have to deal with guys dressing provocatively (modeling for underwear, playing soccer with shirt off, etc) yet we can’t do anything about it because men were taught in church that women don’t have sex drives? Do you know how many times I’ve had to go back to my room and masturbate? Didn’t know women did that? Honestly, this was one of the worst articles I’ve ever read. I don’t care if you look at my calves, butt, waist, stomach, or my whole naked body. I’m a doctor, and have a high-end job that should matter a whole lot more than what men think of my calves. I’m a fully functioning autonomous successful adult that’s not going to dress like a nun in 100 degree weather just in case some blog-writing guy gets a boner. I honestly don’t care if you do. Yes, you read that right. You all go to the beach showing your abs (the penis isn’t sexy-abs are the sexiest part of a male), and would rather not sit in the scorching hot weather in a shirt because women may find you sexy, so why should I? Get a boner. Masturbate. Get it out of your system. You go do that, and I’ll still save lives and have a real job, learning how to control my sex drive without freaking out every time a person walks by provocatively. Grow up.

    1. Lisa
      Lisa August 30, 2013 at 10:37 pm | | Reply

      Thank you Katie Taylor. That was awesome. Totally agree.

    2. JPOutlook
      JPOutlook August 31, 2013 at 6:01 pm | | Reply

      You are right, of course. We need modesty like a fish needs water. Let’s bring it back.

      1. JPOutlook
        JPOutlook August 31, 2013 at 6:02 pm | | Reply

        *You’re wrong, of course.

    3. Willow
      Willow October 30, 2015 at 10:52 am | | Reply

      Absolutely, healthy attitudes on sex and the human body of either gender go a hell of a lot further than trying to pretend covering one gender up to prevent lust in the other. A body is a body, everyone has one and if other people like what they see, great! Just as the shirtless guy in your analogy isn’t asking to be accosted over it, nor is a woman showing calves, or thighs, or boobs, or any other part of their bodies. Modesty is what you make it, finding body parts to be sexual is what you make it. So good on you Katitaylor! You are a fantastic example of how to handle arousal in a realistic and healthy way!

    4. Tom Thumb
      Tom Thumb November 4, 2017 at 9:08 pm | | Reply

      I think you’ve completely missed the point. With all due respect, I don’t care how high your sex drive is – it WILL NEVER BE AS STRONG AS A MAN’S. EVER!!! I don’t doubt you struggle with an addiction, as I do, but you’d REALLY be helping us out if you changed your wardrobe from tights to sweats, for example.

      And I think you’re gravely mistaken about guys, yes some dress inappropriately, obviously!! But there aren’t NEARLY as much of them as women dressing inappropriately. You know that. God bless.

  3. Shotgun
    Shotgun March 13, 2013 at 2:29 pm | | Reply

    Hey Katie,

    My mom always said if anything will come out of a woman’s mouth, anything will go in.

    …you’ve told us a valuable secret: women admire a man’s abs (presumably, it’s a sign of a man’s discipline and ability to be a provider). Fine.

    Now here what makes a woman beautiful: While having an attractive body is important, what’s better is a quiet and chaste spirit, and cleverness and a dedicated willingness to help – no doctor’s salary can give a woman these traits if she doesn’t have them already.

    My advice to you: In the future, watch your mouth, especially when you’re addressing a man.

    1. Tara
      Tara March 25, 2013 at 7:14 pm | | Reply

      Honestly I’ve never read anything more sexist and disgusting in my life.
      I can say without blinking an eye that you are definitely going to hell.
      If you are married, I feel so bad for your spouse. Jesus would be ashamed of you. And you aren’t a christian, Judging someone or telling someone that they need to “shut up” is not godly. And I response to this article, Dude you are nasty. If i was ever married to someone who expressed these kinds of thoughts or put these rules on me…well I would divorce his ass. Modesty can come in moderation not always in extreme. You are only looking at the extreme cases. No its not okay to walk out in a g string or nude. But as long as nothing is hanging out, everything is fine. Has it not crossed you’re mind that every woman is different. What is modest for one woman can be totally immodest for another, Plus some women have problems such as big bust, high temp, heavy thighs, big butt. And your going to yell at someone who obviously is having trouble. God is ashamed of you. And a woman wearing pants is not going to hell, the person telling them that is going to hell. A woman who keeps her mouth shut and lets a MAN decide what she should wear “When men know literally NOTHING about a womans body or the problems she may face with her body or whats comfortable to her” is a weak sad probably depressed woman with little or no hope for a happy good life.God says that a womans body is meant for her husband, well I know many women that will not and don’t get married. Whats the rules for women who will never get married? Do they have to become nuns? If you say yes than I feel very sorry as no one will respect you for that answer. This is my opinion and you are very much entitled to yours. But you cannot judge women who are not of your religion or do not follow the same standards. I am a christian woman. I know Jesus will love me no matter what I wear. I don’t wear “Slutty” things. Maybe in christian’s eyes “Yes”. But modesty [ as in the you have to dress a certain way to be modest] to me is stupid. Putting this shit on women is disgusting when its the “MANS” fault. If a guy has a problem with my bare arm or some of my thigh or my neck and shoulders showing then I would suggest he should get counseling..as he is probably a sex addict or he’s a hormone raging teen or a pervert. If you can show a place in the bible that says “you shall not wear a sleeveless shirt” in those exact words then I’m not listening. Men should be controlling their self’s just as I will not wear a tube top and a mini skirt that shows off EVERYTHING. It’s all about moderation. If a girl can not show even a hint of cleavage than a guy can not take off his shirt..EVER. So if men are not ready to deal with the same rules as women then they can’t say ANYTHING about how a woman dress …period. As a women I’ve had men tell me to shut up. Guess where their asses ended up…In jail. I’m not saying that you cant have a opinion I’m just saying you just judge women who do not believe in the same things as you. And some guys don’t care what their wives wear. All I can say is I’m one of those women who is never getting married. Because men are pigs and treat women like crap. END OF STORY

    2. Lisa
      Lisa August 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm | | Reply

      Shotgun, The words that came out of your mother’s mouth was about as disgusting as anything I’ve ever heard. If she is right, I can’t imagine what she puts in there (thankfully she is wrong because that visual is just disgusting).

    3. Willow
      Willow October 30, 2015 at 11:04 am | | Reply

      Wow! I mean really wow! You know what is good for a woman OR a man? How about being respectful of others. You have absolutely no right, ever, to dictate to anyone how they should live their life. What a sad place to be in to have to dictate to others how they should treat you all based on biological plumbing. How weak to feel the need to oppress another gender, or anyone really. Hopefully in the time you have left in this life you will gain some maturity and learn you are just one in trillions of other lives and no more important than any of them. One can only hope you learn that your procreative parts are just bits of meat, no more important than that. Katie, being a doctor, likely has had to work harder than you could possibly imagine to gain her position. That right there deserves respect. The fact you would minimize that purely because of her reproductive organs means you missed the boat on what is important in life. Further the fact she succeeded to try and keep people healthy and safe and to save lives speaks more for her than you telling her to have “a quiet and chaste spirit, and cleverness and a dedicated willingness to help”. What tripe. How about you develop a quiet and chaste spirit, and cleverness and a dedicated willingness to help instead.

      And my advice to YOU: In the future, watch your mouth, especially when you’re addressing a woman.

  4. Daniel
    Daniel April 23, 2013 at 5:49 pm | | Reply

    One can be completely naked and still be modest depending upon the context of the situation. Modesty varies vastly between cultures. For example in societies where the climate is very hot and humid like in the Amazon jungle and people don’t have modern technology like air conditioners it is commonly acceptable and modest for people to wear very little clothing if any at all.

    1. George
      George July 29, 2014 at 10:45 pm | | Reply

      Nice comment! I wrote a similar thing.

  5. JPOutlook
    JPOutlook August 31, 2013 at 6:08 pm | | Reply

    I agree with this article and all the people disagreeing in the comments’ section are just barbarians.

  6. Kay
    Kay October 30, 2015 at 4:03 am | | Reply

    I often volunteer as a lifeguard, as I am certified. No way I could save any drowning victim if I wore a long dress to the pool. Somehow I think God is a little more pleased with me using my skills where they are needed and saving lives, rather than getting heatstroke and sitting by while someone drowns. Or should we all stop swimming too? This mentality of women being responsible for men’s sins needs to stop. Men, take responsibility for your own thoughts and sins. Heaven forbid paramedics cut my shirt off to save my life and a man happens to be present. Sorry for making you sin by almost dying.

  7. ToeKnee BelowKnee
    ToeKnee BelowKnee October 30, 2015 at 2:48 pm | | Reply

    Kay has missed the point of modesty in a general sense & reached all the way to the ‘what about rape’n’incest’ parallel to the topic. Not only does it not fly, it drowns.
    -tkbk-

  8. David
    David October 30, 2015 at 10:28 pm | | Reply

    Wow so, I got linked here from a joke article about “butt sin” found here (http://matthewepierce.com/butt-sin-volume-2/). I thought this would be a joke (and I mean it is, in the sense that you believe this stuff), but now that I’ve read some of this stuff and seen how you’re a baptized version of Sharia Law, I wish I could take my web traffic away from your site. I guess that’s the drawback to linking to misogynist trash on the web: people inadvertently give you upticks in traffic when they say “What? No way can that possibly be a real thing that exists. Do actual human beings believe this crap?”

    So please consider this my honorary “I request to have my web visit revoked” vote. Peace, I’m out.

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